Spoiler alert: the answer is sexism. But let’s look at the alternatives. Again and again. Every time a female-led Marvel movie is mentioned, these same tired lines get dragged up.
It’s all about timing.
I seriously am not even sure what this means, but Kevin Feige…
Name 3 female marvel superheroes that are as well known as iron man, captain America, and hulk. It’s not sexism it’s that there are just more well known male comic book heroes than female. The only female superhero that is known by most of the population is wonder woman and she isn’t Marvel. Marvel could do a she hulk movie because she is relatively known by most people, but then you probably would complain that they maid a movie with a female lead that is based off of a male character.
Yes, because Starlord, Groot, Ant-Man, and Dr. Fucking Strange are so much that more well-known than Black Widow. Seriously, fuck right off with this nonsense.
Guardians of the galaxy had 2 very strong female characters, gramorra probably would have been a stronger character if her actress was different. And ant-man probably won’t happen, and Dr. Strange is about as well known as black widow before the avengers movie happened. It’s not sexism, marvel just doesn’t have a lot of female leads to draw from 90% of their hero’s are male. If you are expecting a strong female character in a comic book movie you should look to DC, their male female split in the Justice League is a lot closer than Marvel’s Avengers.
90 per cent of the heroes in Marvel are male???!
Are you actually that fucking dense??!
That is probably the most blatantly ignorant argument yet.
“Name 3 female marvel superheroes that are as well known as iron man, captain America, and hulk.”
Storm, She-Hulk and the Invisible Woman.
If you had said Wolverine or Spider-Man, you may have had a point. But before 2008’s Iron Man movie, he was a B-lister on the way to becoming a villain. Until his first movie, people were wondering if they could even do a Cap movie without being some snarky joke about patriotism and apple pie. And Hulk is popular, but before his recent movies, I couldn’t even tell you why.
One annoying thing that keeps getting brought up whenever any studio has made a comic book movie with a female lead, is that it has done very poorly at the box office. Catwoman, Elektra, Barb Wire… They pumped a large amount of money into those movies, just to have them bomb. So all the studios assume that the reason they were financial disasters was because they were based on female protagonists. Now of course, that ignores the obvious reasons that everyone but the studios realize: Those movies were AWFUL. I have a warm place in my heart for the Helen Slater ‘Supergirl’ movie, and I have a lot of friends that love the Lori Petty ‘Tank Girl’ flick. But above all else, those movies sucked. But of course, when you’re a multi-billion dollar movie studio, and you produce a bomb, do you accept responsibility and admit that you fucked up, made a piece of shit, because you didn’t bother to understand the source material… Or do you blame something else that’s supposedly outside of your control? Obviously they chose the latter. (Because it’s easier than owning up to your fuck-ups.)
Now some people will claim that it’s a big risk to cast a female into a lead role like that. What studio would be willing to spend a hundred million dollars on that risky of a venture? Well, to those people I need to point out that Sony already did. Twice! The Resident Evil movies star Milla Jovovich as the main protaginist, and there’s been five of those with a sixth on the way. Budget-wise, they average around $50 million each. (Which is one-fourth of the budget of 2011’s Green Lantern debacle.) Revenue-wise, they’ve brought in a total gross of $915 million dollars. (Though not exact, it’s roughly $183 million per film.) The four Underworld movies, starring Kate Beckinsale (who I think would be an awesome Jessica Drew) also had similar budgets. And they all brought in a good modest profit, and are even working on a fifth movie. Both franchises star a competent strong female protagonist that has earned a profit and developed a strong fanbase.
“But those movies aren’t very good!”, one might say.
Well, neither are most comic book movies. There’s no goddamned reason in the world for Jonah Hex to have sucked that badly. All they had to do was ripoff one of the thousands of western movies they made decades ago, but they ended up making a sequel to Wild Wild West. Yeah, the quality of those movies may not be through the roof, but the fans of the movies enjoy them and they keep seeing them. So they’ve got something going on. They make a strong profit on a very modest budget. They all seem to make at least quadruple their budget back. Which is more than I can say for both of the solo Hulk movies combined. (And he’s someone people keep wanting a third movie for!)
A movie starring a female protagonist can be a successful franchise. And can do so without being based on a high-selling book like Hunger Games or Twilight.* No one’s demanding a ‘Lord of the Rings-scale’ epic for Shamrock. (Well actually, now that I mention it… I kinda am!) But people are just wanting something. Something to show that it’s not all just a giant over-budgeted sausage fest.
What I’m getting as is that is that a female-protagonist super-heroine movie can, has and still works. It has works when they actually try.
For the record, I really do believe Marvel Studios when they say they want to make a female-led movie, but they’re just too busy to do so. It’s not a great excuse, but I believe it’s the truth, no matter how frustrating it is. I’ve heard stories about how they have a completed and really good Runaways script, but it doesn’t fit into their Infinity Gauntlet plans, so it got shelved. Ditto with a couple of others. Personally, I don’t think everything needs to be connected, but I’m not the ones who just made a dancing tree a worldwide phenomenon.
I honestly believe that they’ll eventually do it, and they’ll do it sooner than we suspect. But in the meanwhile, people really do need to speak out about this.
* Yes, Resident Evil is based on a game, but Underworld wasn’t. And as any RE game fan will tell you, the movies have nothing to do with the games. It’s practically it’s own entity by this point.